2016 MERCEDES-BENZ GLC-Class

Great CUV/SUV

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My GLC300 is the 2017 model and this car is by far the best value in its class especially compared to Lexus 350, Audi Q5, Infiniti F35, & Volvo XC60. Pros: Smooth ride, nice handling and feels sporty especially with dynamic controls, roomy interior including decent backseat legroom for growing children, like the parking break option while waiting at light/traffic, good value for standard features and packages. moon roof is a great option, gas mileage and safety features a plus, and spacious cargo area. Cons: Infotainment system controls are ridiculously confusing and cumbersome, too many repetative knobs and features, if main screen was touchscreen it would make it much easier. Shifter, wipers, lights, & steering wheel adjustment are all on the steering column which takes a little getting used to and it sometimes feels a little clunky when accelerating from a dead stop. Overall, pros outweigh the cons and it is a nice looking vehicle.

Love IT

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I also shopped all of the luxury SUV brands. What sold me was the interior and the comfort of the seating.My passengers have remarked that the backseat is the most comfortable they have ever sat in. Very smooth ride and ease to park. Very satisfied so far.

Very nice package

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I have absolutely no complaints! Great interior and technology package! Shopped Porsche Macan, BMW, Audi Q5. Mercedes gives you a lot of car for the price! I simply was not willing to spend over $55000!

I expected a lot - but - a huge disapointment

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I really wanted to love this GLC. On paper, it looked perfect. Ive owned 5 previous Mercedes and expected it to be a modern state of art design with traditional MB quality and driving dynamics. I custom ordered it and waited several months for delivery. The similar designed C300 sedan loaned me while awaiting delivery was a fantastic vehicle. It does has a lot of great features; classy design, great looking interior, a refined strong drivetrain, high overall quality. BUT..... This vehicle has SEVERE driving flaws, terrible controls and layout, the worst NAV/audio/infotainment system Ive ever experienced in any vehicle [and had the priviledge of paying $4K extra for]. These flaws have ruined the ownership experience for us. On smooth roads, it drives and handles fine. On certain rough surfaces, the car shakes, rocks, shudders, bottoms out, and feels like the front suspension or front frame is loose and disconnected from the road . Scary and unsafe to drive. I NEVER expected this in a Benz since all previous ones had a " locked down" driving quality on poor road surfaces. I dont know [or care] if this is result of bad tuning, run flat tires, or a flaw in this particular GLC....but its scary and unsafe to drive on rough roads. The wiper/wheel adjustment/cruise stalk controls and transmission shifter are all on the steering column, all milimeters apart from each other causing you to activate the wrong feature. Who thought of this confusing lever layout and what were they thinking ? The NAV/audio features and controls seem thought up by tweens that never...well ever used them in a moving vehicle. The IPad style screen stuck in the middle of the dash looks tacky and PepBoys classless, voice controls rarely work reliably, the radio has no ability to seek/scan stations, the double wheel/touchpad controller on console interfere with each other [Hans, marketing says we MUST have a touch entry because Audi does, I dont care how you do it, stick it on top of the control wheel !] making sure you never select the right control on the first try, NAV system has a great display but takes 5 minutes to tap & dial, tap and dial an address....excuse me, this is 2016 where flawless Google voice entry is the design standard, who is going to take the time to use that ? Mercedes carefully dances around the subject of CarPlay and Android Auto in the GLC..but after a long conversation with MB helpline they admitted.....you guessed it...not availabe and not upgradeable for the GLC. The bad features overwhelm the good features in the GLC .... a real shame in what could have been ..but isnt...a great vehicle.

I finally found THE PERFECT CAR

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I am a Honda and Subaru owner who usually keeps her cars for 15 years. Those brands are not known for having impressive interiors, but the cars ran great, were reliable and had good resale. When it was time for a new car I spent 3 years looking for a car that was a little higher than a sedan and had some cargo room, but was also not too big, was super comfy and handled great. I could not find that car at Honda or Subaru. I did however find it at Mercedes Benz. The GLC300 embodies all of those qualities and then some. If you want a car that feels like it was made for you, that makes you look forward to driving, then you have found it in the GLC300. The cabin is quiet, the seats are great, the multimedia is second to none (get the larger 8.4 inch screen), the Burmester is the best sounding factory audio in this price point, the handling of this car is dreamy, it has great acceleration. I guess the only negative about this car is that it's not a Honda or a Subaru with proven reliability or resale value. But since Honda and Subaru refuse to make comfortable, luxurious vehicles with great tech, audio and handling, it's MB for me for the next 15 years.

2017 GLC - Excellent Mid Size SUV

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The new 2016/2017 Mercedes GLC is very refined, smooth, quiet and has a lot of technology. The ride is great and materials are top notch in the interior. Acceleration is very good for its class and handling is pretty good. I would consider it at or near the top of its class compared to BMW X3, Jaguar F Pace, Acura RDX, etc. Price is competitive.

hertzdav

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My collision avoidance system is not working. Took it back to the dealer and they don't have a clue as how to even test it. I called Mercedes Hq and they supposedly have advised my dealer how to insure the system is working properly. Tomorrow we try again. If they don't repair it I will Lemmon law the vehicle.

Love this car!

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I really enjoy the ride and how my GLC drives but I am going to highlight a few nits for those considering this model. This is my first Mercedes so I did have to get used to the multimedia/nav controls which are a bit less intuitive that my old 2007 Acura RDX. While the 9 speed auto transmission is very efficient, I personally think it does not downshift enough when slowing for a rolling turn at an intersection. This can lead to either a soft acceleration or a light jump as you hit the gas to make your turn. As I pull up to a Stop sign, the transmission can still be in D5 even when the speedometer reads 10-15 mph. There is no issue starting with good acceleration from full stop, though. The USB ports for charging my iPhone are great and I like how they are both hidden and accessible. However, pausing my music player also seems to silence any vocal queues from Google Maps or Waze. If I have the music playing, then the vocal queues work over the bluetooth but I have to have both or neither. This might be human error, though I have tried to figure it out.

Some great,, some terrible

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I have a love hate relationship wth this car... It has a great,comfortable ride,the mileage is great ,the is plenty of power ,the mechanical aspects good...my big complaint is that the controls on this car are terrible. The controls are very poor designed and hard to use. The mbrace is no substitute for onstar.

Love my new GLC

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This is my first Mercedes and it is a v good small SUV. I love it except for the computer. The controls are awkward. The screen is propped on the dashboard and it is strange. I wish it was built in.

Surprisingly fun little SUV

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Surprised just how much we really like this SUV. For the price of the navigation it really should have Apple play and not rely on an old-school CD system. Speaker upgrade panoramic roof and rear camera where worthwhile oprions. The panoramic roof that's in so much light that it makes the cabin a nice place to be.

Father's day Gift

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Just got it as Father's Day gift. Only drove 75 miles (mostly on high way at 70 mph) so far. Got 33 mpg on high way. My old ML got 20 mpg, my BMW X5 got 26 mpg on high way. I've never driven a car having this high gas mileage before, not even a sedan. No complaint here. V4 with 241 hp is still very powerful. Competiters: X3, Q5, RX, MKX, XT5, RDX, QX50 and Macan.

great car/suv

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worth the money

So far so great!

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Have had the GLC about 3 months and have about 2000 miles on it. It does everything it is designed to do. It is a pleasant place to sit in in traffic and move about town, but can quickly change character if you wish. Just downshift with the paddles or change the driving mode. Mileage has been decent considering my mostly city/traffic driving (about 23.5 mpg). Like BMW, the GLC shuts off the engine if you are stopped for a few seconds. Since the car is so quiet I do not notice this, and so I think it helps with some of that city mpg. My friend who just got a BMW X1 turns off the auto shut off because he says it's annoying. Possibly because BMW wants you to hear the engine - so I can see what he means. My only quibbles are things I knew about the car before I got it - getting in and out takes a little bit of effort, unlike my old RAV 4 which was so easy. However, the GLC seat is incredibly comfortable. Rearview from the side mirrors are only so-so, but the Blind Spot Monitor takes care of that. The Burmester stereo is great, but I would recommend using .wav files which are uncompressed. The 2 USB ports, the SD card, and the 10.8 GB harddrive mean that there is about 200 GB of storage (64 GB max for USBs and SD) - so that's approx. the equivalent of 20 GB of compressed music. The difference in sound is worth it to me (e.g., Lexus does not play .wav files through the USB; BMW does, though). The active safety feature of warning/stopping the car if you get too close really works. It does, however, beep at me when the car in front of me is almost finished making a right turn and I have not braked. Better safe than sorry, I suppose. As far as all the buttons, etc., I found that after a few days I easily got used to it. Still finding some neat little tricks here and there. Another thing I really like about this car is how MB packaged the options. I got everything I wanted and did not have to pay for the things I did not want (e.g., sunroof), compared to BMW, say. Also, I got a pretty good deal, about 9% off MSRP at the end of January.

Small Luxury SUV that Lives up to its Name!

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Finally...been shopping all the small luxury SUVS and this one REALLY lives up to the word luxury! I tried the Lexus NX for a year...I'm sorry...noisy, cheap plastics everywhere. It seemed more like a $30k SUV, and not the $45k sticker price. The MB was a bit more, but it has REAL leather, better acceleration and sporting feel, and luxury feeling materials all over the vehicle. I've only had the GLC a month, but it is far above the NX in terms of luxury feel and performance.

Great Compact SUV

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Overall very nice. Would have been great with a touch screen or easier user interlace for the Tech.

Love this SUV.

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Really love this car. Comfortable, quiet, great sound system, and really great gas mileage. On the freeway I can get 29 miles per gallon and around town getting 21+. The mouse is somewhat antiquated but easy to use - I would prefer a touch screen. Love the turbo which allows great acceleration entering the freeway.

TOO expensive

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Very expensive SUV for what it cut out very little technology for the price. No adaptive cruise control standard Comes as bery extra very expensive to be able have adaptive Cruise control of your highway driver did not recommend this SUV.

A+ Mercedes

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Looked at BMW X3, Audi Q5 and Porsche Macan. All were excellent automobiles. I choose the GLC because it stood out in all the right ways price, options, style and build quality. My advice is not to skimp on some of those options that make owning a car like this pleasurable.

Not quite what I expected from a Mercedes

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Class act

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The GLC is nearly perfect in every way. There's just to many great things to say about this car. Drive one and I'm confident you'll want to buy one.

GLC 300 Good Value

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Chose between a GLC 300, BMW X3, Land Rover Discovery. GLC 300 seemed to have more extras than the X3 and Discovery that were pumping up their price. For example, the BMW with a sunroof was only available if I bought one with a bunch of premium stuff that I didn't need, putting it out of my budget. TRAILER HITCH IS NOT AVAILABLE AS OF 3/8/16 SO IF YOU NEED A HITCH BUY AN X3 or Discovery. This is on Edmunds and MB of San Diego dealer said, "No problem, we don't have a vehicle with one in stock, but you can just get one put on after you buy the car." He didn't say that they weren't available right now. It's been over a month and no trailer hitch is available. Now I have to go rent a handicapped accessible ramp van so I can move my daughter and her power wheelchair around when she comes home for spring break since I have no trailer hitch to attach a trailer. Not sure if I'll ever have one.

MB for Marlon Brando

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I love this car

Disappointed

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My first Mercedes. I expected more and better technology. The mouse pad and control are difficult to use. A touchscreen would be 100 times better. Navigation is extremely difficult to set up an address. Panoramic sunroof wind noise is so bad we do not use it. Front and rear cameras have limited view range. Sensors do not sound until you are right on an object. Accustomed to General Motors and Chrysler where rear camera range extends up and down the street when in reverse. Sensors also sound when another vehicle approaches; not the GLC300. Ride and handling are very good. Not so performance. Dealer, Cutler Bay, Florida, very bad in explaining accessories and technology. Pushed Lojack when MBrace (included with the vehicle) does the same thing in more areas of the country. I would not buy another vehicle from them or suggest the dealership to another person.

Quality Issues, rides very rough

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Ride is responsive but rough. Quality issues: back seat did not fold, washer fluid froze first week, very loud squeal in front tire, mbrace remote start only works periodically.

Peerless GLC (Compared with BWM X3 and Audi Q5)

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Great luxury SUV with some minor refinement issues

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Overall it's a great vehicle. The price can quickly go up depending on options selected. And in order to get certain options, you must select another package which increases the price further. Plenty of features, but surprised that a few aren't even standard considering it's 2016. Features such as keyless entry (MB calls it keyless go) and any color other than white or black is still an added cost option. Most models in dealership comes with the high end stereo system, panoramic sunroof, heated seat, which add to the cost but not providing a lot of value for certain region. You must special order in order to get close to what you want. The quality is good and design is nice. A few trim pieces felt cheap because of plastic feel. The ergonomic is poor, but that's typical German where common logic isn't a high priority on their design. The center console with the touch pad and wheel is over complicated and difficult to use, a lesson they need to learn from the Japanese, or take a page from Apple in design. The gear shift located on the column is awkward to use. And then the turn signal, lights, front & rear wiper, and washer are all located on one stalk on the left hand side along with another two stalks for cruise control and steering wheel adjustment as well as the paddle shift. The steering wheel already have many buttons. I think it's overly complex and not very user friendly. So far during the first month of ownership, a couple issues creep up already. One is the rear camera for parking which is unreliable because the image could freeze or goes black completely. Also some squeaking sound from the dash which is a reflection of NHV control. But this is typical for a first year model of a new design, but it's a Mercedes and these should have been ironed out during quality control testing.

Classy, Sporty, Quiet Ride = Jack Pot MB

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OK I'm a car guy. I spend way too much time looking at cars on the web and to tell you the truth this car was not on my radar because I thought I was going to buy 1 YO used. So I did my obsessive planning for about 3 months and spent 12 hours on a Saturday looking at cars. Problem was I just could not track down the car I wanted so we went from used to new. I loved the 2016 BMW X3. Its nice nice nice but it was the 1st car we drove and should have been the last because that was the car I thought we would buy. Drove the Audi Q5 but it's dated and is in need of a face life. My wife liked the Q5 seats the best. We also drove the Lexus RX 350 (AKA the space ship) liked the interior but the exterior lines are way too sharp. We were pulling out of the Audi dealer and I saw the Mercedes GLC. I knew about it and liked the looks but it was a 2016 and I was thinking 2015. So we took it for a spin and WOW it was smooth, love the transmission (A+ MB) it is quiet inside and has the rounded exterior similar to the Porsche Macan I think. The Tech is really good too. So the dealer only had the demo and we wanted a different color so we drove to Seattle (30 miles) and did the deal. (1500.00 over invoice) Very happy! My wife loves it. We drove it about 70 miles today and got 29.6 MPG mostly highway.

worth the half year waiting

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Nice car

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Car is nice but little pricy. 4yr maintenance plan is $1275 don't pay more.